Jerry Rothenberg (poet, anthologist), Rip Hayman (composer, sound artist, publisher), Gideon D’Arcangelo (technology architect, experience designer), Paco Underhill (sociologist, entrepreneur, author), Annea Lockwood (composer, sound artist), Karin Bacon (event designer, producer, costumer), Jaron Lanier (musician, virtual worlds innovator, author), Steve McCaffery (poet of word, sound, image, performance), Gerd Stern (poet, art technology pioneer), Michael Gerzon RIP (inventor, sound recordist, poet), David Toop (musician, author, teacher), Christopher Wangro (event producer, musical instrument builder), Stephen Vitiello (musician, sound artist, curator), Diana Deutsch (music psychologist, teacher), Stephanie Morrow (marketing strategist) Gunnar Wille (artist, author, teacher), anthropologist, arctic specialist), Brian Katz (acoustician), Paul Geluso (sound engineer, author, teacher), Dan Neafus (planetarium technologist, organizer), KaChun Yu (astrophysicist, planetarium technologist, author), Martyn Ware (activist musician, sound artist, podcaster), Michael Schumacher (musician, sound artist, curator), Pamela Z (composer, sound artist), Miya Misaoka (composer, sound artist, teacher), Tim Ventimiglia (architect, museum designer), Monica Bolles (sound engineer, sound artist), Alan Nursall (science media reporter, planetarium director), Jamie O’Boyle (author, cultural literacy consultant, venue design), Margaret J King (author, cultural literacy consultant), Robin Sip (fulldome show producer, founder of Mirage3D) Barry Threw (curator, producer of new media) Henry Stewart (immersive media producer), Ian McClennan (designer of planetariums), Louis-Philippe St Arnault (artist-technologist) Thomas Kraupe (planetarium director, curator), Luc Courchesne (artist-technologist), Anne Stenros (activist architect, designer), Carlos Casas (multimedia artist-technologist), Stewart Bird (multimedia artist-technologist), Pierre Brand (sound engineer, planetarium shows), Travis Price (architect, author, speaker), Micky Remann (producer, immersive experience designer), Annie Mitchell (light artist), Jenny Woo (director of immersivity at IBM), Martine-Nicole Rojina (sound engineer, artist technologist), Sjoerd Postema (event & co-living producer, virtual world developer), Philippe Grotsch (physicist, oceans analyst), William Fitzhugh (anthropologist, arctic specialist) & Phil Niblock (composer, filmmaker, director of Experimental Intermedia).
Episodes

Monday Feb 06, 2023
Charlie Morrow - The Magnetic Still Point 18c
Monday Feb 06, 2023
Monday Feb 06, 2023
Charlie Morrow: The Magnetic Still Point
[hors-serie iMMERSE! podcast]
Hello, I’m Charlie Morrow. Welcome to iMMERSE! & our conversations on immersivity. Today is a still point. One of those moments when time seems to have stopped.
I’ve been moving further & further north from my origins in New Jersey, US & art & business beginnings in New York City. As a 7 & 8 year-old, my summers in Maine began my north-o-tropia. In 1968, I visited Dick Higgins & Alison Knowles at their Something Else Press workshop & home in Barton, Vermont.
In the 70s, I bought property there & in the 80s built a sugar house, where maple sap is boiled to become maple syrup, in the 90s I built a Vermont home in the sugar woods, the local name for a forest of maple sugar trees.
On my first trip to Lapland in 1986, I had come the furthest north I’d ever been. It was late autumn with light snow. In the night light, as I drove north through Finland toward Kat Kat Keino, I appeared to drive past giant, very wide, dark trunked trees, separated by narrow passages of white light. I came to understand that these were tiny trees & wide expanses of tundra! Still points can be just like this, moments when life turns inside out.
There’s a ready connection to what some call vertical time. Time when the past & the present & the future are one. Music & sound, like words & images, open the mind to immersion & to time travel. Human communication starts with gestures & graphic images evolve into writing & printing, photography & sound recording, visual & sonic transmission.
Memory & imagination starts with capturing experience, evolves storing selected information & distilling information.
The phrase still point appears in T.S Eliot’s poem “Burnt Norton”: “At the still point of the turning world. Neither flesh nor fleshless; Neither from nor towards; at the still point, there the dance is, But neither arrest nor movement. & do not call it fixity, Where past & future are gathered. Neither movement from nor towards.”
Medically speaking, the still point is a period of time when the movement of brain activity is not apparent. This temporary cessation of motion can last from a few seconds to a minute or two. It is thought that still points occur spontaneously as well as being able to be induced.
& then there is the vanishing point, which Wikipedia tells us is “The point at which parallel lines receding from an observer seem to converge. The point in linear perspective at which all imaginary lines of perspective converge. The point at which a thing disappears or ceases to exist.
Poet Armand Schwerer writes of an Aleut shaman’s statement to anthropologist Franz Boas: “When I do the ceremony just right & the setting sun light is just right I disappear.” Today is a still point. One of those moments when time seems to have stopped...
All iMMERSE! texts & transcripts available here: https://www.charliemorrow.com/immerse-podcast.html

Wednesday Jan 18, 2023
Relaunch Renovated immerse! 6a / Brian Katz 18b
Wednesday Jan 18, 2023
Wednesday Jan 18, 2023
This is a relaunch of immerse! 6 with updated information on the Notre Dame renovations
Brian Katz, acoustican, CNRS Research Director at Sorbonne University’s Institute Jean Le Rond d’Alembert Sound Lab, is also a specialist in spatial hearing, room acoustics, and virtual reality. The most interesting development in the past few years was his work on the Notre Dame reconstruction with regard to the acoustics in trying to reproduce the century-old sound.
April 2023 will see the launch of a 4-part French podcast series called “Une Fiction Sonore” @ http://alarecherchedenotredame.pasthasears.eu/.
It includes “In Search of Notre Dame” which claims to plunge listeners Victor Hugo mind as he researches his new novel about the Notre-Dames in 1828. Hugo was upset by the poor condition of the cathedral. Hugo leads listeners on an investigation/experiment regarding Notre-Dame’s acoustics and soundscapes over the centuries.
April 2024 will see the streaming (audio or VR), of various works played in Notre-Dame in the simulated historic acoustic conditions appropriate to their composition period, spanning choir, organ, to full orchestras.
He is currently working on a listening study that examines how the acoustics affects the transmission/reception of medieval music via various virtual acoustic conditions
He and his colleagues are also placing a small choir in various virtual acoustic conditions corresponding to different historical states, and examining how their performance is modified.
as well as refining acoustic material definitions by measuring various tapestries, rugs, and other fabrics at the Louvre and National Monument Archives. The results will be incorporated into simulations examining the more decorated periods of Notre-Dame’s history.
Brian FG Katz, Research Director, CNRS, Sorbonne Université, CNRS, UMR 7190, Institut Jean Le Rond d'Alembert, http://www.dalembert.upmc.fr/home/katz
photo of Brian Katz used with permission, Notre Dame Gargoyle by bart plantenga
All iMMERSE! texts & transcripts available here: https://www.charliemorrow.com/immerse-podcast.html

Monday Jan 02, 2023
Introducing the sidebar Sub-iMMERSING 18a
Monday Jan 02, 2023
Monday Jan 02, 2023
iMMERSE! is a series of podcasts I produce with Charlie Morrow who interviews colleagues & collaborators on the trending topic of immersion [think sensuround sound +]. For Morrow, it all began in the mother’s belly, eventually migrating to the Ear Inn where he met a pack of audio outliers & ended up with Ear Magazine & the Audiographics series of cassettes + countless events, interventions & concerts that forever changed the mindscape of NYC & elsewhere. We are now embarking on a sidebar Sub-iMMERSING!, which will feature offhand impromptu audio diversions ... here is the short intro to Sub-iMMERSING!
All iMMERSE! texts & transcripts available here: https://www.charliemorrow.com/immerse-podcast.html

Thursday Dec 15, 2022
Thomas Kraupe - Immersion Magician 18
Thursday Dec 15, 2022
Thursday Dec 15, 2022
Thomas Kraupe is a German astrophysicist who specialized in x-ray astronomy at the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics. He’s managed a kind of magical situation by combining math & physics with his love of planetariums & music to create numerous interactive edutainment & art science crossover projects that have attracted artists such as Snap, Heaven 17 & Pink Floyd at several planetariums most recently as Director of Planetarium Hamburg, which he transformed into one of the most advanced planetariums in the world before retiring in late 2022. He continues to serve as a consultant for immersive theaters worldwide. I met Thomas in Colorado Springs, Colorado at one of the first immersive gatherings.His invitation for me to join & chair the International Planetarium Society Committee for Immersive Sound has opened the door for many projects. Charlie Morrow & Thomas again crossed paths at Imersa Montreal 2022.
All iMMERSE! texts & transcripts available here: https://www.charliemorrow.com/immerse-podcast.html
* production & audio backdrop: bart plantenga

Thursday Dec 01, 2022
Luc Courchesne - Pioneering Immersion Worldwide 17
Thursday Dec 01, 2022
Thursday Dec 01, 2022
Canadian artist-professor Luc Courchesne was an early convert to media arts some 50 years ago. He began utilizing computer technologies in 1984 to create interactive video and later with his immersive and interactive installations, "panoscopic" images, and devices of his own, he helped transform spectators into visitors, actors and inhabitants of his experiential crafts. Charlie Morrow interviews on immersive common ground.
Read entire interview pdf here
* production & audio backdrop: bart plantenga

Tuesday Nov 15, 2022
Claude Schryer - Immersion in Hope 16
Tuesday Nov 15, 2022
Tuesday Nov 15, 2022
Canadian Claude Schryer is a Zen practitioner who believes in the power of art to shape a better future & dedicates much of his life to this pursuit. He has been a sound & media artist, having released several electroacoustic soundscape CDs in the 90s. for 20 years, He served as an arts administrator with the Canada Council for the Arts in Inter-Arts after creating that department.
Schryer is an environmental activist and in 2020 launched his bilingual ‘radical listening’ Conscient podcast, which explores art and the ecological crisis. He also offers workshops on art and sound & the climate emergency.
When I heard Schryer’s podcast with Hildegard Westerkamp, I was moved as much by the interviewer as by his inspiring guest. Thoughtful dialogue and warm atmosphere. I reached out to Schryer and came away with this interview. He is enthusiastic and engaged. He welcomed the opportunity to discuss immersion and the moderating of a podcast. Midway through our interview, he turned the tables and began interviewing me and, in the end, we each came away with our own podcast – one for immerse!, a second for Conscient.
Schryer: “The world’s a bad place and there are those who are raising awareness. And there are those who say: Here’s what you can do about it. That sort of action-oriented activist, engagé art. And then there’s a third category of escapists and dreamers, also very important ... so somewhere between those who are raising awareness, those who are inciting us into action and those who are helping us escape from it.”
Read entire interview pdf here
* production & audio backdrop: bart plantenga

Tuesday Nov 01, 2022
Ian McLennan - The Immersive Planetarium 15
Tuesday Nov 01, 2022
Tuesday Nov 01, 2022
“I realized that we were going to be able to take audiences & immerse them in the universe, take them on a journey & surround them with the mystery & the beauty of the universe.”
Ian McLennan is a pioneer in the development of planetariums, museums, science centers, & other high-content public attractions. Based in Vancouver, Canada, he has shepherded attractions from the days before Imax to international fairs to today's immersive projects. He’s also music lover & a lover of his daily walks during which he captures special moments in his photographs. I met him through Dan Neafus at Imersa in Denver, when he was being honored for his life's work in the field of planetariums, science domes & immersive environments.
Read entire interview pdf here
* production & audio backdrop: bart plantenga

Sunday Oct 16, 2022
Revisiting Michael Gerzon - Ambisonics & Immersive Sound 0b
Sunday Oct 16, 2022
Sunday Oct 16, 2022
A re-airing of the iMMERSE! with Charlie Morrow pilot broadcast, with a new special introduction. A special 80-minute celebration & investigation of the life & work of audio pioneer Michael Gerzon, inventor of Ambisonics & lossless audio, which revolutionized recorded sound. The podcast series launch came in conjunction with the immerse! online event: Celebration of the Vernal Equinox & Michael Gerzon on Sunday March 20, 2022.
Read entire interview pdf here
* production & audio backdrop: bart plantenga

Saturday Oct 01, 2022
Dan Neafus - Fulldome Immersion 14
Saturday Oct 01, 2022
Saturday Oct 01, 2022
Neafus as the co-founder of IMERSA has hosted numerous international fulldome summits & is considered a pioneer in the field of immersive & experiential arts & technology. He strives for the synergistic convergence of the fulldome experience, VR, immersive cinema, science, education, culture & performance art. Charlie Morrow came into contact with him via the planetarium & fulldome people & became involved in Imersa where he became intrigued by their activities & was invited to participate in various fulldome events. Neafus & Ka Chun Yu have been large influences on Morrow’s immersive work. For a perspective on pre-computer immersive events & technologies such as panoramic paintings, listen to Ka Chun Yu’s podcast here: https://admin5.podbean.com/immerseSoundLightSpace/episodes/form/pP06bPSEqubX
Read entire interview pdf here
* production & audio backdrop: bart plantenga

Thursday Sep 15, 2022
Ka Chun Yu - Immersion Before Computers 13
Thursday Sep 15, 2022
Thursday Sep 15, 2022
The immerse! project was initially sparked by astrophysicist-educator Ka Chun Yu’s essay, "A Brief History of Immersive Experiences Before Computers." Yu is the Curator of Space Science at the Denver Museum of Nature & Science. He has performed educational research on the utilization of digital planetariums for the teaching of astronomy & has created numerous planetarium shows as a universe maker & conceptualist.
I met Yu in Denver around 2002 while he was working on immersive content for the Gates Planetarium. Since then, he has contributed to my sound & animation exhibit for the Canadian Joggins Fossil Cliffs Museum & my sonic journey called "Land Sea Air - Sonic Journey from 400 million years to the present & beyond" that was exhibited in New York & London.
Read entire interview pdf here
* production & audio backdrop: bart plantenga

iMMERSE! Sound Light Space
CHARLIE MORROW, Composer-sound-artist-eventsmaker, investigates immersion in 40 interviews with his past collaborators, all luminaries in the fields of immersion including music, events production, architecture, anthropology, archaeology, visual art, psychology, literature, performance, sound engineering, 3D technology, artificial intelligence, marketing ...
The series commences with the nearly 80-minute "The Gerzon Factor" & will continue with uniquely produced & focused interviews at regular intervals, averaging 25-45 minutes.
Read more about Michael Gerzon in Jon Kalish's PC MAGAZINE article
Read “Charlie Morrow, Sonic Nomad,” bart plantenga, Musicworks.